She does not wish to be alone in the boy going missing. 2. The foster mother told the court how she was told not to call Mr Laidlaw, but to instead go through other investigators on the team. As early as 7 AM the foster mother opens the curtains and supposedly sees two suspicious cars (aged and unkempt) on the road opposite Nanna's house. These attacks were on top of experiencing something "no parent should ever have to endure," the court heard. Both uses dont add up so I see deception whichever way you look at it. "We want to thank the coroner; we think she cares.". I tend to think witnesses saw Melissa that morning. Did she JUST make him have an accident? So the liar is vague and minimises details when necessary. The only verb in the sentence is raced there is no mention of looking or searching from her. I think most people would think the opposite, like: "Okay, I can sit back for a moment because the authorities are doing everything they can to find her. How did I try to shut someone down? Autumn said:William was riding his bike on Nanna's driveway at 9 AM on the day of his disappearance.That timeline would fit with an accident occurring around that time and then the Father then going to his meeting and chemist. On Monday, it was revealed William's foster mother is being investigated as a person of interest. She says he didn't want to because it was too high. Was the mother envious of Williams attachment to Little Tara?Did she throw Little Tara in the roadAt night to torment WilliamAnd he ran into the road to retrieve Little TaraAnd he got hit by a car?Follow the mothers envy & you willSolve the case. The foster mother said that taking in children as foster parents was something she and the foster father had always wanted to do, William instantly bonded with his foster father after being taken from his biological parents aged seven months and placed with the wealthy north shore couple. 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Were coming up on ten hours (breathless) and nows the part where Im saying I have to do something because weve had CHP fly over, weve had the, Inyo County, Inyo Mono County Sher-, um, Sheriffs flying over, er, ah. Did she ponder the possibility of blaming Williams disappearance on suspicious strangers? However, the circumstances seem far from ideal for that scenario. Some will hold their hands up when they are wrong whereas others will try to pass the blame onto others.I would rather be friends with someone who had done something wrong, but had admitted to it and took responsibility for their actions than someone who had not only lied to others, but to themselves as well. Indeed that is almost literally what she says. William Tyrrell: Inside privileged life of foster mother, why she hates I have found proof in the police interview that the Father has been totally deceptive and combined with other language strongly suggests there was a car accident where he ran his son over the morning of disappearance. The windows of these cars are tinted and no person can be seen. So if Zachary indeed said that, maybe he wanted to steer attention in a direction opposite from Karlies actual location? Screaming (to get out of well!He would have a height if he were standing back on solid ground instead of in a well? Having William taken away broke his heart. An instant is not minutes. He [wouldnt] go far.The fathers answer has problems with the order of events we see he says he I arrived back, I was on my way back and then I`d arrived back.Id arrived back [and been asked] if William was with me This is very vague information. Etiquette bible Debrett's shares new rules on From breathtaking beaches to epic waterfalls and lost valleys: Fascinating new guidebook bursting with Adidas investors sue sports retail giant for 'routinely ignoring' Kanye West's 'extreme behavior' including 'A waste of licence payers' money!' 'Imagine waking up to an unsubstantiated article published by a large media outlet claiming a 'senior officer' within NSW Police shared that they have a NEW person of interest, whilst inferring that this heinous crime is on the brink of being solved,' they said in a statement shared to their 'Where's William' website. Are you watching the video? Hes not a kid that [would just run into something] Mentions run into something.Mother: My brothers have brought their kids up around there, [they would run those streets with absolutely no fear]. The only explanation I can see is that she does in fact have another daughter, but that daughter is from a previous relationship and is an adult. If she is with her other daughter then I would like to know where the daughter she is not with is.Operator: OK, alright. So, in the timeline that they say. Um, and, uh, I'd fell back asleep and then that's when I woke up and she was gone. How close is the subject to the person that has gone missing? William Tyrrell's biological father, on the right, attends the inquest. William Tyrrell's foster-mother has broken down on the stand recalling the moment she thought that her son's abductor also planned to take her daughter. The weekend the foster mother had planned included sorting through family belongings, getting the foster mother organised ahead of the Kendall house sale and taking the kids up the road to visit her father's grave. -- consider taken together is a pause. Why? If she answers yes she will need to supply details of possible location, but if she answers no she will have to tell a direct lie. The woman appeared in court on Thursday, accused of lying to the NSW Crime Commission. The public were only a couple of years ago. I think in all this green, Ive got to see some red somewhere. A mother would be the closest: mother and child relationship is highly personal. "I mean, he [wouldnt], hes [not] a wanderer, he [wouldnt] [even] cross the street by himself. They sold the five-bedroom house with a swimming pool where William had lived from early 2012 until his disappearance for more than $4million last year. His foster parents are reported to be persons of interest in the case, December 15, 2021: Police reveal a bone fragment of unknown origin has been found in the search ahead, and are planning to wrap up the search by the end of the week, By I think she sold him to a pedo.That is why she kept saying he was wearing bright colors, you couldn't not see him. Also: why does she add physical? I will tell you why this detail is vivid in her mind. - Why does Melissa say my daughter? Not she saw him or she heard him, but "we" and "we" only "heard" him; which tells us that this was not eyes on supervision of a young child. There is something curious in this respect though (Adrian also mentioned it): in the 60 minutes episode only one daughter is mentioned, so why did the foster mother say "my other daughter" in the 000 call (000 is the Australian 911)? It has many meanings and when used to minimise actions it is deceptive. Michael, yes, I had heard of "The boy in the box"-case but avoided looking into it because that title is so horrible. - very sensitive to him.Adrian. If she does it would open up a whole new line of enquiry.Adrian. One in some sense loses their "height" if they are standing beneath ground like in a well shaft.If his hair WAS parted on the left, you would see a freckle on the top of his head.Why would this "hidden" detail stand out to her? "He will be the kid in the Spiderman outfit" is what she told him.That's why she said "Do you see Daddy's car? Nannas house is on a cul de sac and not close to the street. And I was like, how could I have missed her, you know? William Tyrrell's foster-mother feared her daughter would be abduction target. The foster family continues to share a close bond with former detective Gary Jubelin who lead the investigation for four years before he was convicted for illegally recording four conversations with former suspect Paul Savage. And again: why in that case say other? Two hours was the point where something's wrong. Autumn. 'We took our role very seriously to provide a loving caring supportive home for him. Pronouns are instinctive and we do not make mistakes with them. They were questioned about their understanding of abuse and neglect, their response to dealing with children's behaviour resulting from neglect, and their willingness to protect a child's identity and culture. :)Adrian. Simply put they are telling us what they want us to know and nothing more.Adrian. Peter did an article on the word just which was very interesting and I have done a lot of research on the word myself as it has a lot of meanings. So much sensitivity, so much negative language, a need to convince, unique words, the list goes on and on. My daughter is a freshman in high school and I have been teaching her the principles of sa and she used it the other day and helped a friend in need! Brief Life History of William. I know she`s coming home. Jamie Redknapp sells six-bed Surrey mansion he shared with both his wives for 4.95M Partygate civil servant Sue Gray could be barred from joining Labour for a year as 'vindictive' Cabinet Why you DON'T need to ask your in-laws' permission to propose! I haven't seen explicit signs of guilt. Is there anything you want me to say to Caylee, any new thoughts or anything. I thought it could be five is not specific; the mother expects the operator to interpret five as five minutes, when it could be five hours, or longer - generally, people tend to avoid telling a direct lie. I thought you suggested that he was buried under a path in the bush, but you probably meant in the bush that is situated down/at the end of the path. Dr Phil questioned them about that and they said it's because they've been getting death threats and didn't want their address published. Was he unable to see William because the windows of his car were dirty? Also it was kept quiet by police etc that William and his sister were in foster care. We have to take peoples words literally. William Tyrrell detective believes foster mum knows where missing boy Most people would say about or around when giving a time reference as an approximation, but the fathers use of the word within stands out. We have a social introduction which is expected. The foster mother now says she's not fond of the photo of William in the Spider-Man suit. What is she talking about. Did Melissa and Zachary break the law? No. Hannity delivers news and Melissa says I am informing you of some news so she is saying I`ve got news for you, she wants him to put it out.Things begin to get strange when she says:my daughter Karlie Guse [went on a walk] this morning and [nwver] [sic] returnedWe see very soft tone language to describe a child who was paranoid, scared and high on drugs around the time of her disappearance. When Melissa was asked if she harmed Karlie she replied, Are you kidding me? I cant figure it out. And then nothing. Was William roaring with pain (and then nothing)? Thanks for the link Autumn.Just a snippet from the Police interview, how they have got away with this makes the mind boggle.Police: When did things start to go awry?Mother: Well, when I realised that William was missing, I [just], I think back to that moment where I [just] went, I cant hear him, why, why cant I hear him, and I [walked around], [seriously] it was [just] 2, [3] metres away from where we were sitting, and Ive [just walked out], and I [just see nothing]The mother tells us she was sitting 2 to 3 metres away from William. (This goes for family and friends)Mothers of missing babies are aflame with instinct, protective capacity, and intuition. When you say arriving quickly it sounds like driving. And, um, we are going to potentially have the helicopter do the search over a very large area so far, all the way around us, all the way down to, like, Laws. We are left with no information at all in her words; essentially she tells us something but gives us nothing. 'The visit before he called me his "birth mum".'. So thats, yeah, thats my last sound my last sound memory of him is wraah and then its nothing. "She asked him that so he would go around the corner of the house and be visible to the abductor who was in a car.I have never felt so strongly in any case that the mother did sell him and she did a transaction whereby the pedo she sold him to "abducted" him out of the yard.She dressed him in the Spiderman costume so he would be recognizable and visible to the "abductor" (purchaser) of William. I find that unusual for a 16-year-old to want to be in the bathroom while her stepmom is taking care of hygiene and going to the bathroom herself. There were plenty of tears in the public gallery when the foster mother described having to return to Sydney after the initial nine-day search, which covered more than 50 square kilometres. I. After listening to Melissa and Zac on Nancy Grace, I wondered if Melissa was intoxicated as well when she went to get Karlie. I just want to say that I am amazed by how you sleuths have analyzed the word just. The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said her son was desperately trying to get a medical script for prescription drugs. She states that there were two other cars across the road from Nanna's home that morning. Do you know where he might have gone? William Tyrrell's foster mother is a wealthy professional worth several million She comes from Sydney's north shore and always longed for children She is an enthusiastic tuckshop mum at a. And, Im putting this out there because, um, it's going on 10 hours that shes been missing and I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert. Is that why Melissa repeatedly says blast? "Imagine having your son taken away and doing everything to try and get him back, only for him to go missing.". (CROSSTALK)CASEY ANTHONY: My gut is telling me that she`s OK. CINDY ANTHONY: OK. And your gut tell you that she`s close or some -- she`s hiding? Their parents do. Additional words = valuable information. Some children do go missing where the parent or caretaker who is making the emergency call indicate guilt due to neglect or failure to protect, rather than criminal guilt. Why did they foster William?It wasn't for the money as they seem well off.Was it so bored crazy Mummy could have her "other daughter"? I feel like he's lost the opportunity for everything'. Maybe one was parroting the other.Michael, I laughed out loud at your following comment (as I had thought something similar): The fact they have an earnest detective slaving his life away thinking he is solving an abduction is mindboggling.Autumn, Adrian, I hadn't thought of the three monkeys (hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil). "We have had six years of pain and broken promises we are still grieving, we are angry and frustrated, and we want answers. Is there sth that makes people mention "the world" when they talk about the moment their child disappeared? Nine months after William Tyrrell was born on June 26, 2011, he was taken from his birth parents, who had a history of substance abuse and domestic violence. Women seem to have stronger denial than men. A detective feels that noone recognized the Boy in the Box even though his likeness was circulated everywhere and even mailed out with everyone's gas bills because he had been made to live as a girl and that his hair was haphazrdly cut after he died (because it had been--there were clumps of hair stuck to his body) to try to disguise the body as the boy had had long hair like a girl before he died and that's how people would have remembered him as (a girl) even though he was a boy.I believe Martha M's story. Daily Mail Australia understands the Mazda Hatchback was allegedly driven by his foster mother on September 12, 2014 - the morning the three-year-old vanished. And, I just want to let everybody know (looks at phone). And, theyre amazing, and, um, several Mono County Sheriffs and, I see all your faces popping up and it makes me want to cry, I love you guys! Operator: How long has he been missing?Foster Mother: I th well, I think, well, we've been looking him for him now for about fifteen or twenty minutes butWe can deduce that I th well, I think, well are almost repeated words which indicate sensitivity to the question. I would expect her to use past tense and include a direct reference to William. The now-deceased woman's car was seized on Wednesday morning. William Tyrrell's sister tells inquest into his disappearance she will become a detective and solve abduction mystery. William Tyrrell was three years old when he disappeared. We can look at it two ways, firstly that it was used to minimise actions which means they did more than just drive around. : not thinking and talking about Williams disappearance anymore) to (2) an alternative outcome such as: William being found and the truth coming out. I spoke for myself I responded to Peter's comment about a comment and said that I appreciate that type of comment as well. A senior detective has told a court he believes the former foster mother of missing boy William Tyrrell knows where he is. We expect her to say then D returned from his meeting or even D arrived home either would be fine, but by using the word because she has shown that she has a need to convince us that he was at one. Just there is non-specific in regards to location and just hanging out is again non descriptive. So, this is hard right now, because I just, I don't want people to judge her. Maybe somebody gave her something, I don't know. She didn't want to leave my side. There is an interesting quote from the foster mother about driveways. She never asked for help for William. Deception IndicatedAdrian, I have wondered the same thing. William Tyrrell was three years old when he vanished from the home of his foster grandmother on the NSW Mid North Coast on the morning of September 12, 2014. My immediate thought was somebody has taken him, he is gone. In her frantic searching around the houses, in the bush and in the drains, she thought she heard a scream: it was similar to the sound of when a child hurts themselves quick, high-pitched and sharp. But there was nothing: maybe it was a bird did I imagine it. Was it an accident? Any vehicles?Foster Mother: No, no, no, no well not that I [no] know, not that I'm aware of. OP: Alright I'm just going to bring that up on my map I won't be a moment. I think the foster parents quickly came up with the scenario of a kidnapper to move suspicion away from themselves. In his opening address, council assisting the coroner Gerard Craddock, SC, said it was not widely known that William's foster family were supposed to travel from Sydney to Kendall on the day he disappeared. And, Im putting this out there because, um, it's going on 10 hours that shes been missing and I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert. So who are these Walking Warriors ? walked up and down Benaroon Drive and we cant find him. Then, only in response to a direct question, does she finally state her sons name. Melissa says She was awake which sounds like a good statement but if we look at the video we see that she leaks her lie through her body language.At 3m 16s when she makes the statement we find her words say one thing but her head another. The foster mother, now 56, was at the home with her own mother with William and his sister when the boy is believed to have disappeared. She makes two downward hand gestures and she interrupts him as to signal him to keep it down. We don't know where he is. She heard him roaring (to get out. December 19 - Coroners say William could still be alive and the inquest will determine if he died or not. He was wearing a Spider-Man suit and playing in the yard with his five-year-old sister. On the morning of September 12, his foster grandmother told police, William was 'full of beans, jumping out of his skin with energy'. Why did she include that?When I first looked into this case I thought something similar: did Nanna have another daughter? "I can put my hand on his head""He has asthma" "Wouldn't have wasted his time going uphill""I followed the path down to the cemetary". "he would be" indicates that she has absolutely no idea about what happened, how he is doing. It is the only misspelling in the document which is interesting and as most people check through what they have written before posting it stands out.What strikes me most about the message is that Melissa is suggesting a crime (lawbreakers) has been committed and that Karlie may never come home what if she never comes home?. So was the foster mother subconsciously pointing to herself as the suspicious person? I had a quick read through just to get an idea of what happened and Melissa uses a lot of deceptive and unexpected language. It is pure fabrication. - But dont love our lawbreakers. http://williamtyrrelldisappearance.blogspot.com/2015/10/in-their-words-william-tyrrells-parents.htmlMother: hes got a really good understanding of his limitations. I just can't believe it's happened,' she said. Thanks. On September 11, 2014, William Tyrrell, 3, his five-year-old sister and his foster parents travelled four hours from Sydney to visit his foster mother's mother in Kendall. We dont know who that someone else is but we can deduce it from her language. @JohnYou wroteIn the transcript (thanks Autumn) they talk about tree's and how he doesn't like heights Did he fall?if he was out there in the bush, he would have been found, which you know, as I was walking through the bush with other people, it became more aware to me as time went on that this is not a normal event. The editor of it tidied it up to make it more readable. Going back to the emergency call she said:Operator: There wasn't anyone um suspicious in the area? I want you to know that. Ever! The question is did the mind get released with the body? I don't know what to do to consider her a missing person. Wheres Colombo when you need him eh? I just want to help find her. CASEY ANTHONY: Just tell her that I love her and that I miss her. ^ William and his biological sister were fostered together - the little girl still lives with the foster parents - her biological mother wants her back. -Order of importance1. It is the same as saying I kid you not. Father dies eight days after getting stuck in indoor cave at tourist attraction: Tragedy at climbing wall as Celebrity chef Jock Zonfrillo was found dead at hotel aged 46 'after flying back to Australia on his own Cookery's ultimate hellraiser dead at 46: British Masterchef host Jock Zonfrillo lost his virginity at 12, King Charles' Coronation LIVE: Late monarch's confidante leaves grace-and-favour cottage, Princess Charlotte Death of Botox and fillers as Brits seek a 'natural' look: Love Island star Molly-Mae Hague inspires huge Did the King gift the late Queen's dresser Angela Kelly a house in bid to stop another royal memoir? [We] were just, [I] was out there talking with my mum and my [other daughter] soWe see a pronoun change from we were - then self-censorship and a change to I was. Shes been missing since 6:30 am. It is not on the left side. She is telling us that it is only racing, no big deal. William Tyrrell was last seen playing at his foster grandmother's home in northern New South Wales in September 2014, when he was three years old. Weather: Did the missing person live in a moderate climate, or an extreme climate? Its as if they are in hiding.The foster parents also i.m.o. She can see the top of his head. I would expect the focus on we need to find her she is missing. She said he was, was here five minutes ago, here five minutes ago. It was a dark storm night. Karlie Guse's stepmom also talked about "the world" ("The world is cruel and the world is real [etc.]") So our suspicions arise when we see the extra word as it suggests the person is comparing his answer against the number of drinks they really had. Why would the foster mother insist if William didnt want to? That's not a reliable denial. Could it be she'd referred to a child she foster cared before but wasnt living there anymore or wasnt with them at grandmother home? And my Dad passed away in February that year so that was really the first time wed been back since Dad had passed away, and we were going to go visit Dads grave and they were drawing some pictures to put on his grave, they were sending messages to Opa and things like that.
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