Again has anyone any info on Bruno? Was sad to see it go. Happy searching, Sylvia Gambin. There was a garage forecourt at the top of Hedge Lane where in intersects with Green Lanes, Was that a WW2 bomb site does anyone know? no munny for the trollybus past Evans an Davies Pritchards Restaurant (Mas favourite cept for Shell Oils Social Club at Teddington) Same waitress uniforms, black, with frilly white eddressis an apronsso the long walk ome to The Larches an cheese sanwiches. A saxophonist my father often booked had the first name of Larry. I went there with my sister and her friends I think the Small Faces were signing autographs ? I have spoken to a friend of mine who was born in the mid 30s & has lived near Hedge Lane most of her life but she doesnt remember a bomb dropping at the top of Hedge Lane. Hello Dave, I didnt know Victor Madden when he was young as I live in Ely, nr Cambridge, but luckily, I met Victor on a Rock and Roll weekender in 2009 and we spent the next 7 years together. Bamboo cane area dividers, Italian shiny coffee machines and music.. Areas like Palmers Green have changed a great dealover the years;the memories of others help us see where we live with new eyes. Me Doc Meldrum had a most interesting signature it resembled WWWWWWWW Hi Jenny, I took a photo of these homes about this time (1966) before the fire for a school photo project on old buildings I believe they were called Skinners Alms Houses. I think it was called Harvey Sports (a friend of mine had a Saturday job there) & next door was a fabric shop called Metres which sold everything from net curtains to dress fabrics and upholstery materials, The couple who ran it were very kind & patient working our how much material you needed for your windows etc. Where are you now and all the others from these years? It is now a tyre suppliers and fitters. She bought all her underwear from there. I remember headmaster Mr Bennett at t ottenhall rd junior school Miss Gibbs. We used to have a grocers van come around each week, does anyone remember Mr Meadows who ran this van? Once in, the shop was very narrow and long with coats of all sorts hanging along the walls. Good times. (with Pa as escort we did go to the Queens later on seein Cat an the Canary (Bob Hope, avent bin able to sleep in a bed with edboard since and Pinnochionightmares cos o the Whale swallerin (Jonah?) Hi Victoria, I remember the milkman well, his horse was called Dobbin and Mum used to get me running out in the road with a bucket and shovel if he dropped his business near us so it would be good for the roses in her garden. I was born in Southgate in October 1936 and lived with my parents at 6 Tintern Gardens until September 1956, when they moved to Willingdon, Eastbourne. To supplement income he was a musician from 1926. I dont remember you should I? Everett was the first black lad in our school in the mid 50s. I ad no spare cash for new comics in them daysdid you ever deliver the EagleIm payin 8.00 a copy for the good ones now.. My grandparents moved to Palmers Green in 1910. I also recall Roberts toy shop on the other side. They were green wooden gates. I also remember Burtons at the triangle and having a girl friend who lived in Tottenham road and the estate agents around Doms cafe including Dennis, Maxwell Miel who had a reg. The Fox has a number of accolades. Which one is it?? watts north Miss? Sit down Raymond! As I hadnt had any response to my original comment I was beginning to think I had imagined him. Can someone confirm the existence of a Tesco store in Palmers Green at this time? Also the first Wimpy Bar at the triangle in the mid 60s? And gloves which were cleverly (!) Dark..my teecher at Winchmore ill and Southgate County Grammer, Fox Lane, do you remember? One of us is going mad!! I used to go out with a boy who lived along The Larches, (number 92), in the 1960s. 1st. I bet you noticed big changes to the shops in PG when you went to The Fox. When you entered the shop there was another door immediately opposite the entrance door. No Dave,my brothers name is Derek married to Cathy. I havent been back for many years but believe the Doms cafe is still there. David they are wonderful memories arent they? I was just 15 and left school to become the first employee your father Aubrey gave me my first job and I never looked back and went on to become a photographer in the RAF as national service was compulsory at 18 after I joined a Photo retail shop in Turnpike lane named A M DAVIS after I started my own career in Muswell Hill N10 Then went on to open 7 more shops before starting a Franchise called FOTOVALUE with over 1000 outlets throughout Europe allowing the owners to retain their own name with just banners to say the where part of Fotovalue. Here in Cornwall too warm and damp this week for me as a farmer. Thanks 8.1K members Join group About Discussion About this group This worldwide local history, nostalgia and memories group has been active since 2012, we have thousands of photos in our albums and many memories and photos being posted daily. They ran the cafe on their own with no other help. I met him later as a tenant in one of his many properties and worked for him for a short while in the 90s. I believe she moved up to Scotland after living in Ibiza for a while. Can anyone help?my partner is looking for his father.his fathers name is trevor george burgess and the only info we have is trevors mother lived on princes ave palmers green.if anybody knows of the above person and can help my partner find his dad please contact me on 07986272734.thankyou for reading x. They were great times at that school but I then left at 11 to go to Ambrose Fleming Technical Grammar School for boys, what an awful place, hated every minute and left at 15. I must have been about 5 or 6. Wendy (was Wendy Small ), Hello Wendy, I do recall the ladies shop you mean. Also the sports shop was further up on the parade of shops opposite the old Woolworths. Hi. Other teachers were Miss Sweeny who would let you ring the bell if it was your birthday, Miss Calcott (horrible) and Mrs Dark. He had been a prisoner of war and always seemed incredibly nervous. I wonder if anyone remembers Dr Baxter who had a surgery in Hazelwood Lane at the junction with New River Crescent where the maisonettes are now? No I cannot remember the name of the garage and can barely remember the garage let alone that it was selling Jags. Hi Dave, I do remember you and your dads photography business. Hello Brian, Im so glad you remember Dr Baxter. Gerry, my email is g.hicks@msn.com would like to know more as cant use laura@yahoo.com my mail is returned. Good to have found this site. . however, it did changes hands to a new type of shop a few years later. As I was only young then, I have no idea why that happened. I used to sing in the small choir there on stage just before the pictures started, members of the choir got in for nothing via the back door instead of having to pay sixpence like all the others. The manager in the 60s was Keith Small, very nice man who had a daughter Jacqueline. Before Victor Value there was a lovely old music hall. Winchmore Hill is a suburb and electoral ward in the Borough of Enfield, North London, in the N21 postal district. I know Pete and Bill Starling locally, not related though. I seem to recall that it was situated in Princes Avenue on the right, a short distance from Green Lanes. 70s. A group of Palmers Green residents, in association with Friends of Broomfield Park, are planning to open a small, not-for-profit Community Cafe in a disused building in Broomfield Park. I still as the familly piano bungin up my front room, opin the latist sprog will unravvell its potential. Saturday morning pictures at the Palladium was always good fun watching Roy Rogers, Flash Gordon etc. Lived in Melville Gardens and Grenoble Gardens. Annyway after ostilities e also gigged (very fashionable nowadays, eh?) Is it still haunted? There was also Kate Riddle, a hat shop with a tasteful window display. The Dance Hall suffered badly but most of the fatalities were caused by the wrecking of the shop premises opposite on both corners with Sidney Avenue. No expense spared by Mr.Grout!! Dads brother, Uncle Sid Rann lived at no 22. I would dearly like to know what Bruno did/go next, does anyone know pleasealso did anyone know a window cleaner same era, bit of a wide boy,one of two brothers, called Vic Madden, not to be confused with an actor of a similar name. I also loved the names of the park keepers you remember they just seem very appropriate somehow! 020 8881 7304. Your change would come whizzing back in the rather splendid looking canisters. We lived in Upsdell Avenue from 1941 to 1957. Remember the Windsor Caf. Hi Christine. I lived in Burford Gardens from 1954 until 1978,went to Hazelwood school where I had a huge crush on a girl called Hilary Taylor. I remember Peter Townsend the sports car dealer opposite the library and the ABC and the Wimpy bar at the triangle. I wish I had found this page earlier as he would have loved to chatted with you about Palmers Green as that is where he had his office and owned several properties in that area. AnnywayI bought my first camera from Mr Kalms (Dixons) Edgeware (Agfa Silette) on the knock (so much a week) and cycled to Edgeware to pay the monthlya Canon copy of the Leica followed f1.8 lens but paid its way at weddins and I think I was one of the first to get back with ome developed colour (Ferrania) to the celebrations in them days. Hi David, I think I remember you from Winchmore. But the mac an the suit attracted my beloved Patricia nee Cable (Winchmore ill) (not me, you unnerstand). Went to St Monica School from 1970-71 before we were transferred to the new Our Lady of Lourdes School in Arnos Grove. Cullens sold loose biscuits from large tins and lots of different dried fruits and unpacked ingredients that could be bought in any quantities and were then bagged in paper bags. Memories of Grouts - Palmers Green Community Forums - Palmers Green Organising A Cremation Funeral In Palmers Green. He really lowered the tone of Palmers Green. But we used to dangle fishing lines from the river bridge in Hazelwood lane in an effort to catch something. I just recall the horse. Seekin relatives of a gentleman printer named Richard Wall who lived at No.8 The Promenade N13 opin to return some property I found, I come across this Jewel and your writinsare you related to Joe Hart for whose band my Dad used to play the saxophoneusually Friday evenins for 32/6? It catered for men and women. There was a car dealership at the top end of Hedge Lane on the site currently occupied by Yaser Halim. Great memories, we lived in Winchmore Hill, in the 60s, 70s and 80s these comments bring back so many memories. OK sorry Lorna, but just thought the name being similar and all that. as many did back then or another location. two of the teachers l remember and Mr bennet was our headmaster,.true air raid shelter was at the top of the play ground. Best wishes Does anyone have a photo of prewar broomhill park with its original railings? The garage was called Saul and Slatters. It wasnt the Home & Colonial that was a few shops further up, I will ask around about the name but ohhh!! Possibly during WW2 it was requisitioned for war work. Other fine dinin hexperiences in dear ol Palmers Greengeograffical-wise goin east. History 1940, I have enjoyed reading all of your comments, because my Mother was so proud to have lived there, and reminisced so often. My earliest memories of the site are from WW2 when, as a youngster in a pushchair I saw an aircraft being wheeled out of the building which stood there. No, RIchard is it was definitely Jays but I think it was further down towards Bowes Road. I remember going there with my Grandmother in the 40s/50s. [10] Coronation fireworks display in the park. yes recall them well. Devonshire Road. Hello Christine, I do remember the china and glass shop which I went in with my Mother to buy any special gifts for people. I do remember the restaurant above the sweet shop too. I also got a passion for steam trains watching them working the sidings at the station. Pennie, I can tell you have great taste! Many years later when I was adult he told me what he saw. Miss Hughes was head of the infant school. David. Recall the police fishing bodies out of the water occasionally suicides. I remember Dr Baxter well, he plastered up my left hand when I broke a finger playing leapfrog at school! no NHS .no grudgis but years go on this tripe celebration with fireworks still upsets loads o animals for a month (even pets let alone them foxis an badgers) annually..Annyway ice cream an jellys under a glass case (repro) at the Ritz cinema 1943 in Leyton (before the doodle bugs) but nil else at the Odeon Southgate (2/9 for the best seats and icis (extra) in the interval (with my wife 1959). His house and grounds backed onto the new river on the opposite bank to ours which was in Lynbridge gardens. Hi Sylvia, in the P.Green archives somewhere there is a report that on the night of March 15th 1941 the Princes Dance Hall (corner of Princes Ave) was packed with young couples. No this barbers was near Janes and Adams Electrical shop and also bicycle shop. Its population was very small, and there were no more than a few isolated houses in the mid-17th century. We bought our first TV off him, black and white of course. She was a lovely lady; then onto Junior school run by Miss Belfontaine, who was a bit of a demon but very good at her job. To Gerry Hicks- yes I remember you, you had a wife called Rose and a daughter called Carol? Do you mean `Tom the flower man at the Triangle next door to Woolworths? I remember the shop well.think it was called Cullens. David Way of Winchmore Hill Broadway? There was a Palmers Field here in 1204 and a road called Palmers Green in 1324 but there is no record of a settlement until the late 16th century, when there were . Also why did they demolish whatever was there before? Maybe a member will remember Jays. I used tio get my school uniform in Evans & Davies. I used to have a paper round in the paper shop top of hedge lane and green lanes in 1963 I got fifteen Bob a week Mr pogson was the proprietor does any body remember him. Dordrecht, Netherlands. Sylvia 0 I grew in in NRC, What was there before the maisonettes were built. This marked the spot where lorries slowed, changed gear to ascend New River bridge and I would grab a tailboard chain and be towed up and up Bourne Hill by a Foden on my bicycle (not the Rudge yet) to St. Georges Road and peel off easily to Southgate County School in Fox Lane. I worked at burtons at the triangle in the 60s until at closed inthe 70s some very happy memeries of those times. Was it a post office too? I think that he worked on the railways. The Prisoners were building the estate up to Ash Grove. Probably TottenHALL RdSchool Mr bennett was headmaster was St. Michaels School..The fever hospital was Greentrees further up Tottenhall past Bird in Hand Pub and before Norfolk Pk alleyway. February Edition Issue 12. With the Winchmore Hill conservation area as a focal point, the district is bounded on the east by Green Lanes (the A105 road), Barrowell Green, Firs Lane and Fords Grove, and on the north-west by Grovelands Park; in the south it extends to part of Aldermans Hill, and in the north . The archive can be found at bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar'. Miss Tibbets was the head I believe. you may ask) too fashionable and hexpensive now thanks to ebay. Mon May 03 I also was in the cubs and then the scouts,153 North London which met at the Congregational church at the end of Burford Gardens where my sister also got married around 1967 I think. My grandmother moved to Halifax in 1919 and remarried. Hi Jenny, slightly different location, a bomb did fall near the intersection of Green Lanes & Bowes Rd/N.C.Rd opposite Princes Ave. People were killed and the site was eventually leased by two brothers and used a a used car lot space called Keith Cars until the late 70s. When I lived in London and just started my business Aubrey would do most of my black and white printing and I also did a few weddings for him. Didnt stay for long as my parents moved away but certainly enjoyed it whilst I was there. Seems a long time ago now! The shop later became an extension to Gateway Film Productions (where I worked). I used to buy my records from Ashwells which was next door to Lloyds Bank. I was in my late teens when it was opened. Palmers Green - Hidden London Ooooh now youve switched a bright light on.The Pilgrims Rest what a gem. Richard Franklin. You even remember the prices! Was it also another name? Very interesting. He was very stern and terrified me! Also Jack the window cleaner who lost a leg at the Somme. I especially appreciate the care and teaching some of us received as St John Ambulance cadets. Rosalie lived in Palmers Green during the war, and provided this memory of her wartime life as part of the BBC project the WW2 People's War, an online archive of wartime memories contributed by members of the public and gathered by the BBC. The owners were brother and sister Dominic & Anna both born in Italy who arrived in England after the second world war,they were very hard working & organised, so much so they only lived 200 yards opposite in Tottenhall Rd. In 1914 he was commissioned into the Middlesex Regiment as a 2nd Lieutenant and was killed on 1st July 1916 at the Somme. Apparitions were seen and there was some poltergeist activity mainly at night with loud bangs downstairs. Me and my two brothers been discussing the dept store at the triangle but didnt think it was Evans & Davies at that time . St. Clements Press. Some good times at Arnos. When I read Jenny H & Martins comments about Doctors, it reminded me of the first one I had. A man who was the spitting image of Reginald Varney (On the Buses fame} served behind the counter. When I was in the juniors my friend and I used to like nothing more than to lay down on the railway bridge near the Church at the top of Hedge Lane and let the smoke of the trains roll over us. We lived just at the top of Sidney Avenue in Palmerston Road and I remember crouching under the kitchen table as a very small girl with my mother and my brother and I can still recall the sound of the planes going overhead and the gun fire. Once purchased the items would be carefully wrapped in brown paper and tied with string before the exciting moment (for me anyway) of paying. The Sales Department was at 44-46 Aldermans Hill and Service was at 234 Green Lanes. Memories - Palmers Green Jewel in the North I remember the Ford Zephyr. Perhaps he moved out of the area or maybe passed away and the family sold it but thats only a guess. The adults who gave their time for us were great people! I remember that day vividly as, just as the tv was made to work, on the screen we were just in time to see the Boat Race with Oxford sinking up to their waists in water. My parents bought our very first television from them a Bush table model which was also installed by them. The Roberts toyshop changed its name in the mid 70s to Zodiac if I remember correctly. Jeremy Hoare, pictured left aged nine, grew up in Palmers Green, north London, next to an image of him now (Jeremy Hoare/PA) A community radio station presenter has recalled the "fabulous" photographs he took on his Kodak Box Brownie camera as a schoolchild at Queen Elizabeth II's coronation in 1953. It was quite good really if you wanted a weatherproof coat and were prepared to go in! If I remember correctly you used to play the piano, Michelle I started Hazelwood in January 1964. Happy days playing in the yard out back. Thats where I bought my comics tooBeano, Whizzer & Chips and Sparkey. I still have a tennis racquet in the loft that I bought from P Green branch when I was about 13/14! Since opening its doors in 2014, FUFU (meaning lucky) has established itself as one of . Hi I lived in Princes Avenue with my grandparents in 1969 and reading the comments the memories came flooding back. Back to the New River, us 4 from 3b Southgate County met on Sundays in Geoffs Grannys House, Riverway and mounting to her Summer House Roof Platform at the end of her garden invented the game of Catchreeling, making our apparatus from cotton reels and cottons supplied by Granny the object was to cast as fly fishing to snare the bundles of cut grasses that seasonally the New River Authority trimmed from the banks. Lots of happy memories of Palmers Green ice cream at John Coombs sweet shop. roses) at certain times of the year and was very beautiful. Thanks again. I think Myrtle Road was built in 1950, is that right? When were all the doctors, dentists, solicitors along Green Lanes private residences? In the 50s there was a shop towards the end of Palmers Green (on the right hand side as you went toward Winchmore Hill) that ground coffee. Palmers Green, Enfield A poor man's Muswell Hill, as architectural historian Nikolaus Pevsner called it, consisting of an Edwardian core surrounded by interwar estates on the borders of Southgate, Winchmore Hill and Bowes Park. Magic for post-war Palmers Green teenagers. I lived in New River Crescent. Before marrying my first wife I too lived in Muswell Hill then Palmerston Road before buying a flat in Woodberry Avenue. I started in the infants second year in 1947. Scores were listed and published on my Dads old Barlock Typewriter. !955, Concriptd to the Rifle Brigade..married Patricia (Winchmore ill 1957) where was Doms in the igh street?. Intimate Memories: The History of the Intimate Theatre, Palmers Green Paperback - 30 Nov. 2006 by Geoff Bowden (Author) 4 ratings See all formats and editions Paperback 50.00 3 Used from 49.90 1 Collectible from 22.99 Print length 213 pages Language English Publisher Badger Press Publication date 30 Nov. 2006 ISBN-10 0952607638 ISBN-13 Miss Wrigley used to rattle you back and forward in your desk if you didnt behave. So my boyhood dreams finally became reality! Dad joined the Home Guard and I remember him cleaning his rifle regularly which used to stand in the corner of the kitchen. We went to Sothgate County Grammer School in Fox Lane. I had a mini and a few cortinas in the 70s all with big bore exhausts and used to make a deliberate noise going up Green lanes. I think that surgery was based in the houses that Martin mentioned (10/8/14) for a short while and then to a tiny building, like a garage, at the top of Windsor Rd with a bigger branch in Winchmore Hill, nr Green Dragon Lane. Anyone remember The Quick Service Cafe on the corner of Bowes Rd and N Circular run by Are you skating on thin ice already in the Netherlands? Then in to tea and rock cakes and bashing out Boogie on Grans cherished piano. Remember John Menzies where I used to buy records in early 70s. for Joe Hart at Tottenham Muni and Manor ouse Finsbury P, Dick Davis an Billy Cotton etc. He played an accordion and the drums for many of the big orchestras and hotels in central London. Between Windsor Road and Park Avenue was a greengrocers called Burkes, there were 2 Janes and Adams shops, the toy shop already mentioned, plus 2 doors from that there was the electrical shop an old sign saying Ultra Radio was still up on the front at the first floor (last time I looked). I can say that Victor enjoyed every minute of every day. Winchmore Hill And Palmers Green Memories Join group About this group This worldwide local history, nostalgia and memories group has been active since 2012, we have thousands of photos in our albums and many memori See more Private Only members can see who's in the group and what they post. Some boys from Winchmore worked for him on the window cleaning. One called Bourlet (nr Smokers Paradise) & Hinds which was almost opposite I think. Those were the days. Yes I remember Miss Hughes, she was the head of Hazelwood Primary around 1946 when I started. Yes Bezazz coffee bar, went their most nights as well around 1964 onwards coffee, egg & chips, juke box, pinball machine, 3/6d last all night!..some faces Denis Day, Mick Stanton, Mick Smith, Dave Todd, Michael joannou, Michael De Bear,Wendy & Susan Smale, Laureen Blackwell, the cast goes on! Ah yes. Memories: You can, and others, can share memories at the bottom of the page including photos and stories; Donations: . There were two blokes in the back workshop mending bikes and preparing new ones. Ma used to send me there up Hedge Lane in the school olidays with a shillin for my lunch (includin tip)I remembers the custard. Yes.thats where I learnt to swim. He was on duty the night a German bomber that had been badly damaged by ack-ack fire abandoned his bomb load on the dance hall above the shops in Green Lanes between Princes Avenue and Tottenhall Road. Next..The Triangle Cafe shut (ABC an Lyons) also shut at 5.. We lived in Osborne Road (1955 ) but then moved to Old Park Road just over 10 years later where we stayed until the late 70s. You will also find memories from contributors below, and across other pages on the website, where a post has maybe triggered a memory or two, http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/16/a2115316.shtml. 2 min read. julia, I remember Victor Value, we used the shop sometimes. Hallo Raymond, Wondered whether or not your father was Fred Rann who used to go to the Fives Club? Gerry Hicks, Hi. Palmers Green is often nicknamed 'Palmers Greek' or 'Little Cyprus' because of the many Greek, Cypriot and Turkish immigrants who have made this bustling enclave of north London their home. I was Jean cook then with a brother Brian l remember the bombing of the dance hall between princes avenue and Tottenhall rd and the trolly bus wires catching fire and my friend Louise loosing a leg l remember Doreen young and Gary spicer.also the smell of Mac fisherys shop. Think the shop with the coffe grinder and gorgeous smell was called Rawlins.went to school with the daughter of the owners. The Beezaz was like a second home !! Palmers Green 60s To The 70s: A memory of Palmers Green Annyway I was bursting with fitness with all this pedalling on the Rudge when my time came to do National Service (Rifle Brigade.
