To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. ", Dr Patricia agrees, "A mothers weight affects our ability to predict gender. "At this gestation the baby is tiny, a mere 4.5cm long. During that first trimester, you're excited to know as much about your baby as possible; like the gender. The Nub Theory, does what it says on the tin. I gave up after a half hour. Like the Nub Theory (which looks at the direction the genital tubercle is pointing) or the ancient Chinese birth chart (which uses the mother's age and the month of conception to guess a baby's sex . ", "Ultrasounds are used to screen for certain conditions and check whether there is something noticeably wrong with your baby. The nub looksforked but sits atan angleof less than 30 degrees. Black Maternal Health Week was created to reduce disparities Black women and birthing people face today. Has the Nub Theory been wrong for anyone? | BabyCentre If you're wanting opinions from people who aren't new to it I'd recommend one of the actual nub sites. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. Very difficult to tell the difference. Typically, the prenatal blood tests involved at this stage check for protein and hormone levels that can signal fetal abnormalities. The bladder is drawn through to the tip of the nub and shows no rise. Join this group to meet other parents of May 2018 babies and share the joys and challenges as your children grow. Despite the high percentage of correct gender predictions from the study in 2016. 1st picture is 12 weeks, 2nd picture is 13 weeks. Thankfully our team here have the experience needed to predict with confidence. I wont find out the sex of my baby until Aug 21st! Would be really interested to find out! It's very murky. Amanda Bastianelli is a specialist midwife sonographer with the NHS and at Expectancy Scanning Studios Ltd in Kent. Also depends on how curled up/flat baby is. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. A boy nub doesn'talways have to be seenas a typical boy shot and can appear forked, several gender markers will need to be taken in to account here to identify the forked nub as male. Example Below 11-12 Weeks InGestation The Difference InTheNub. (For a fee, of course!). X. was wrong for me, tech said girl at 11 weeks and was very confident, heart rate has been higher than my daughter ever was 170-180, Panorama test said girl. Update, if anyone comes across this: it's a boy! Empowering parents to do it their own way, Nub Theory accuracy: what the experts say, MONEY DIARY: I tried a no spend challenge - and failed. Nov 4, 2014 at 12:24 PM. The tubercle or tube will eventually develop into a penis in a male baby or a clitoris in a . ", She goes on to add; "For all registered professionals it would be against code of practice to make a guess in early pregnancy if it potentially meant ethical choices. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, 11/01/2022 17:09, Hi, Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. I have a private scan booked for 9th August, il be nearly 17 weeks so will find out then! Nub theory revolves around something called the genital tubercle, which forms early in pregnancy on the lower abdomen of your baby. I just wanted to remind ladies that the nub can be wrong. One of these nubs was predicted to be a girl elsewhere, he is now born. I hadn't heard of the nub theory until a few days ago when a coworker's wife said she's going off of that until her 20 week scan. Plus these are my top tips for someone looking to try the challenge themselves, By Sarah Handley I would have called that a stacked nub too. All our content, including text and images, are owned by nub theory. (2018). Nub theory fans, however, claim that by 12 weeks the tubercle is different enough in appearance to be noted on an ultrasound. This will varybetween 80-99% depending on the qualityof the scan. Bath In all honesty it's a bit of a guessing game. It's a theory. Nub Theory and guessing your baby's sex | Bounty As you can see in our examples belowthe 11.3 week nub shot shows a boyish appearance. The gender will usually be easier to predict if the nub is seen to be angled above30 degrees or higher in relation to his spine. There are many pregnancy myths on how to determine the sex of baby. First-trimester determination of fetal gender by ultrasound. The nub will point down at the very tip towards the baby's rump and you will notice the nub hangsover the rump too. DOI: Efrat Z, et al. Just wondering what the accuracy is based on a 12 ultrasound before getting attached ! Just had our anatomy scan today and found out we are having a baby girl! The girlnubs seen here are between 12-12.5 weeks in gestation and theyhavean angle of less than 30 degrees. So, today the baby's back was curled a bit but there was what appeared to be a very prominent, high nub. Would be really interested to find out! Your baby's nub will always image as two lines, the top half of this line in a girl nub will develop in to her clitoris and for a boythe top line of the nubwill develop in to his penis. There are other gender markers we take into account here, the significant rise seen from the spine to the actual nub, the length of the nub and how the appearanceof the stacking looks. However this nub is still very much ambiguous in . Any nub theories that looked obvious but were wrong? : r/BabyBumps - Reddit I hadn't heard of the nub theory until a few days ago when a coworker's wife said she's going off of that until her 20 week scan. Can Using Skull Theory Reveal If Youre Having a Boy or a Girl? Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. Anubis a small protrudent seen between the legs asearlyas 8weeks. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. I did 2 different theories - The nub & The skull. aforked nub, this can bea telltale sign that his nub is undevelopedand in this case someone with an untrained eye in the theory will almost always predict a girl. From around 12 weeks to 14 weeks you'll be able to clearly see your baby's nub, also called the genital tubercle. Nub Theory: Does 'Angle of the Dangle' Predict Baby's Sex? think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. Nub theory is a good name for this analysis, because it really is just that: a theory, without much evidence behind it. Some other sites will. The 2016 study found that a body mass index below 23.8 was the best cutoff value for gender prediction at 11 to 13 weeks. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. The theory about anterior placenta and gender is that if you have a placenta that attaches to the front of your uterus, you're having a girl. I will post both scans. Though they would happily share a print of your scan for you to have a playful guess at home.". Breastfeeding: the trick to a comfy latch, More posts in "October 2016 Birth Club" group, Create post in "October 2016 Birth Club" group. Here is a closer look at a girl and boy nub from 11 weeks, you can see below there's really not much difference in the appearance. We're examining the theory and the science behind the Shettles method, which claims you can choose the sex of your future child. Similar results were found in a 2006 study, with a larger sample size of 656. Whether or not it is read correctly is a different story. He is an admin of facebook group Baby gender by parents photo. Well Im coming to a conclusion that were having another girl. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Whats your take on nub theory and has anyone ever been told wrong "We tend to over-predict boys more often than girls. Can You Tell Youre Having a Baby Boy by the Shape or Size of Your Belly? Has anyone found the nub theory to be wrong?! To answer your post, I believe my last pregnancy- it was wrong. At 13+ it should also look more formed than that. The idea is that, if you can get a clear view and baby isn't doing foetal gymnastics, you can predict the sex of your baby based on the angle of the nub. e have studied this method for many years and we know that if your scan images are analysed correctly, using the many different gender markers, then the nub theory is up to 99.9% accurate. These nub shots show a classic forked shape andtheylook verysimilar in appearance. Here's an easy video on how to do it, all you need is your ultrasound photo; Yes, the Nub Theory can definitely be wrong. Learn About What to Expect's Pregnancy & Baby App. I had zero sickness or symptoms with my girl wouldn't have even known I'm pregnant! Understanding the Shettles Method. Skull theory explained: Can you predict a baby's sex at 12 weeks? - GoodTo (1999). I stand by my statement though, the nub theory is accurate as long as it is read correctly. All babies have this between their legs and it develops between 11-13 weeks, turning into a penis in males and a clitoris in females. Thank you x. Nubs that are likely to become vulvas will generally be parallel to the spine. I'd definitely wait until the 20 wk scan to confirm. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. Clear parallel girl nubs. You can learn more about how we ensure our content is accurate and current by reading our. In a word - yes. So fun to see if the guesses were wrong or right and if the nub theory was accurate for you! Nub theory is an unproven gender prediction method that suggests you can determine your baby's gender at your 12 week pregnancy scan. says Dr Patricia Santiago-Munoz, M.D. Both boys andgirlsstart with a flat ambiguousnub, this is why most boys areinaccurately guessed asgirlsduring the 11th gestational week. "Up until your 14th or 15th week scan, the female and male genitalia simply look too similar to 100% differentiate between the two. The nub I couldnt figure it out since it wasnt that great of a picture. Create an account or log in to participate. The nub usually develops around 11 to 13 weeks. Published 30 April 23, By Sarah Handley Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a small share of the sale (more details here). Yea, can y'all post your scans that were mistaken? What is the Nub Theory? | SneakPeek We have a private scan booked for 16 weeks so we will find out for sure then.. just wondering if anyones had all pointed to one gender but was actually wrong? If you can get a picture of them laying down on their side, that should provide you with a good view of the nub. Ours had a v clear spanner nub pointing up the way but found out yday it's a girl. Jesska34 12/11/17. With this kind of nub shot an accuracy of99% can be given. It centers on the 'nub' - the genital tubercle -, that forms on the lower abdomen of the baby. I definately think we are going to have to know at 20 weeks now, as it's driving me up the wall! Specialised midwife and sonographer, Amanda Bastianelli (opens in new tab) tells us; "From around 11 weeks gestation, both boys and girls have a swollen area of genitals that look like a nub. Does an Anterior Placenta Mean Youre Having a Girl? A lot of people on here told me it was a boy & my ultrasound showed a stacked nub, turns out it's a girl! Unfortunately. Heres how it works. DOI: Lubesky M, et al. Our website services, content, and products are for informational purposes only. The real name of this 'nub' is the genital tubercle and how the nub theory works is the angle of the nub can reveal whether you will be having a girl or a boy. Last medically reviewed on March 30, 2020, Skull theory is a popular gender predictor method that uses the features you see on an early ultrasound to determine your baby's sex. There are times when the nub theory will be incorrect, this is usually down to a poor image, the incorrect identification of all the gender markers and the wrong gestation submitted at the time of analysis. However, if it's under that, then it's a girl. We are team yellow but feel our surprise has been ruined by nub theory. Want to give it a go yourself? According to a 2012 study of 1,222 patients, it was possible to reliably determine baby's sex using the Nub Theory with an accuracy of 96.6 to 100 percent, starting at 12 weeks gestation. All babies have genital tubercles before the 15th week of gestation and these genital tubercles are referred to as the 'nub.' How is The Angle of The Nub Determined In The Nub Theory? :D xxx, Everyone guessed boy on mine due to the skull theory nub couldn't be seen they were right x, There wasn't a nub on my scan picture but I'm pretty sure I saw it while I was being scanned, and I didn't make out the angle it was at but it was a spanner shape which would indicate girl, and we are having a little girl xx. Official answer. Nub theory wrong for anyone? - May 2015 Babies - What to Expect I'm really hoping for a boy so this had me second guessing what the US tech said lol. Here we must look at the angle, a girl nubwill imagebetween a 10 and 29 degree angle. Mine did, mine was pointing straight up to the point the guy said he was 99% sure it was a boy so we paid for an early gender scan on the weekend to confirm and it's a little girl. One myth is about the size and shape of your belly. Can You Choose the Sex of Your Baby? The Nub Theory can help you discover your baby's gender at the 12-week scan, all you need is your first ultrasound picture. Can Nub Theory Accurately Predict Baby's Sex? - TheBump.com nub theory wrong for anyone nub theory wrong for anyone. Nub theory is 100% accurate. So while I wait, I know this isn't reliable but I want some anecdotal evidence of people who swore they saw a penis but ended up with a girl!! But what, exactly, is nub theory and is it a genuinely accurate way to predict your babys sex? Before that, nub theory is no better than a guesstimate. Everyone said boy from day one. Copying is prohibited. What. It can be hard to get the right angle, though the pregnant person can attend with a full bladder. lol I just finished going though a million posts but I found it. Eventually this tubercle, or nub, turns into a penis in male babies and a clitoris in female babies. Learn more about, Learn About What to Expect's Pregnancy & Baby App. If you compare the angle of your baby's bottom/spine to the angle of the nub, and it sits horizontally in line with the spine or even points down towards it, believers would say this shows a little girl. Im curious to know what kind of ultrasound you got for this scan. The girl nubs seen here are between 12-12.5 weeks in gestation and they have an angle of less than 30 degrees. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. Add message Save Share Report Bookmark We were told at our 12 week scan that she thought she saw 'boy parts'. @bbear16, My sonographer today said that it is just an educated guess and cannot be taken as fact yet. Thisclassicgirl nub shows someclear gender markers. Yes nub theory can be wrong- predicted girl for dc3 and he is definitely a boy! Nub theory results: post your pic that you were guessing from and then the confirmed sex! Thisclassicgirl nub shows someclear gender markers. For nub theory to work, the ultrasound needs to take a side profile view and the nub and spine must be clearly visible. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. Baby needs to be laying flat. Nub Theory for gender prediction - Nub Theory at only 11 weeks All rights reserved. Nub theory is a fun way to make a slightly-better-than-random guess at your babys sex after your 12-week ultrasound. Craved all Savoury too. The nub theory is the one and only theory you can count on. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. This is a sure sign to purchase pink. Fetal gender assignment by first‐trimester ultrasound. Our ultrasound tech guessed boy at 13 weeks based on nub theory, and she was correct! I did the nub and skull theory at 12 weeks + 3 days and they both predicted boy. Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. Nub theory is a method to predict fetal gender. But nope, she's all girl! but remember that it may still be wrong. Archived post. All rights reserved. X, Most doctors dispute nub theory as it's very dependant on the angle of the scan. Nub theory: can it predict your baby's sex? | MadeForMums Unfortunately we won't as we wouldn'twant to get your hopes up for a specific gender. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. 15/05/2021 14:50. Gestation plays a huge part, the exact gestation is a must, even one day wrongcan make a huge difference in how the nub develops. Afull long line(clitoris) will image and the bottom second line (labia) will show just at the tip. marchofdimes.org/pregnancy/amniocentesis.aspx#, mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/first-trimester-screening/about/pac-20394169, nipt-biomnis.com/gene/prenatal-blood-tests.html. It sounds pretty reliable in that caseI was so team yellow, I guess I am hoping it could still be incorrect so we are none the wiser! First trimester screening. However, rest assured. With over 20 years of experience, she completed a Diploma in Midwifery at the University of Greenwich, before gaining a Postgraduate Certificate in Medical Imaging, Obstetrics & Gynaecology at Canterbury Christ Church University. (Hey, its probably more accurate than peeing in a cup of salt water to see if youre pregnant!). During the 12th week of pregnancy the nub is going through the rapiddevelopment changes and the accuracy of your prediction will bemuch higher. This Post has been closed to new Comments. What exactly does 30 degrees look like on an ultrasound? Most pregnant women undergo first trimester screening that includes an ultrasound and blood tests for chromosomal abnormalities like Down syndrome and trisomy 13. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. Can nub theory be wrong? However thenub was still undeveloped and yet to go through the rapid changes, during the 12th week of development you can see the nub has now found its final resting place and at 12.2 weeks the nub now shows a clear girl shape.
